Phil Glendenning is also President of the Refugee Council of Australia and has made frequent, dangerous journeys to 22 countries to monitor the safety of asylum seekers rejected by Australia.

Glendenning brings tales of horror about refugees sent back to their countries by Australia. He provides compelling arguments to support the claim that the Australian public is being lied to by its politicians.

Glendenning discusses his embarrassment when leaders of international refugee councils are incredulous at the tiny populations on Manus and Nauru and the incredible cruelty meted out to them by the Australian government.

THE BURNSIDE CONVERSATIONS is a digital series that features Julian Burnside in conversation with key Australian and global thinkers on the matter of asylum and current threats to human rights, expanding on views expressed in the Rymer Childs feature length documentary BORDER POLITICS.